[00:00:00] Dr. Delgado: Hello, everyone. This is Dr Nick Delgado. I’m with Dr Sangeeta. Pati, Md. You’re in Orlando, Florida, and I’m in Costa Mesa, California. You know, we have a very special show about adrenal thyroid axis. Sangeeta. I know you’ve been working in medicine and you made a big transition, if you will, toward dealing with people on a five point model. Tell us about what’s going on with people who are suffering from fatigue. They’re struggling with their bodyweight. They can’t seem to recover. They have cravings. There’s issues in terms of maybe emotional depression. Maybe they even have an issue where they’re addicted to, either. Alcohol, drugs, chemicals. Does that kind of summarize it up? You’ve been doing this work for quite a while. How often do you see these kind of patients? And what do you approach first, from a hormonal dietary in lifestyle standpoint? Hey,
[00:01:00] Dr. Pati: yes, we’ve been seeing these patients of really treating them actively for about almost fifteen years now. We opened up in two thousand for so it’s fifteen years and I transitioned from a practice where I was practicing conventional obstetrics and gynecology and seeing patients and using the tools that I had in my toolbox, which at that time were pharmaceutical medications and surgical solutions. And of course, at this point, dial forward fifteen years. It’s real clear that those air to parts of the toolbox and then the toolbox is very wide with many other things in it, and the fact that there’s so many other things in it allows us to put the power back in the hands of the patient so that they can be in the driver’s seat for their own health. And then our job becomes one of providing awareness, inspiration and guidance and tools. And then the patient chooses what they want to do. But our ultimate aim is to get people to the point where the long living are the long living people around the world live under a thousand dollars a year of income, no doctor and managed to climb mountains until they’re above the age of hundred because their cells aren’t degenerating as quickly as ours are. So what areas are the tools in and those tools are in five areas. And if we optimize thes five areas, what we found is all of those symptoms that you’ve talked about go away and a perfect example, like, I accept three patients today who came from Brazil who were both interested in weight loss and they had tried everything and they were exercising till there were blue in the face and eating absolutely nothing, you know, vegetables and rabbit food. And yet the body was in a state where it perceived them to be in an emergency, so it stored it in the middle, right? It doesn’t matter what it’s going to store it. And as we started doing their programs, we it started to become really clear to them that when you have a problem or an issue like, Hey, you know what? I’m eating better than I ever ate before. I’m exercising more and paying much more attention to my lifestyle than ever before. And I’m still gaining little handles here and there in the middle of my abdomen. Right, right. It’s because the body’s going, Hey, hello, You’re some imbalances yet. So without the opportunity that we get provided as small a symptom or as large a symptom, whether we have a couple of pounds away or a couple of points of blood pressure elevation or find ourselves waking up a couple times at night. It’s always the body giving us an opportunity to respond with a solution. And the five areas in which we work to provide that solution end up correcting all diseases across the board. So it ends up taking care of the weight and then all the other issues, too, because you never have just a weight issue.
[00:04:39] Dr. Delgado: So I know I’ve sat in on your patient counseling sessions and you do a really great thing that I enjoy. And that is, you ask people, what are their health goals, what are their challenges and issues? But oftentimes you pushed them to give you atleast ten different conditions or situations that they want to resolve. And I like that because sometimes people think and terms of sitting down with the doctor and talking them. Hey, I have this one problem and yet there’s something far more troubling to that individual. And oftentimes it’s the fifth, sixth, seventh or the tenth thing they mentioned. That’s obviously or more or less the most important thing to that individual. They just either we’re dealing with it for so long. They didn’t bring it up first, or they didn’t think you had in your toolbox a solution and or they told other doctors. And, you know, the doctor said, Well, it’s just old age or your,
[00:05:29] Dr. Pati: you know, right? Yeah, it’s normal. That’s really common. Um, so we generally try to rate the symptoms around six areas for sure, Whether they complain about them or not, I always try to get a gauge on six symptoms. One is energy morning and afternoon. Two is continuous hours of sleep. How many hours do you sleep continuously without waking the longest stretch? And there’s a good reason for that, because metabolism is set at the fifth ninety minutes cycle of continuously. Third, any pain anywhere for any gastric symptoms. Heartburn, reflux, diarrhea, constipation, indigestion, bloating, fifth, any anxiety. And sixth, any depression. Those six will control everything else, including wait so way. Always ask for atleast those six symptoms, and what you’re going to find is when you have people who are complaining of weight issues as you start to dig into those other issues, those are the issues you’re going to find. So the way we correct it is by optimizing the hormones, optimizing the nutrients, detoxifying the body, especially getting the ph above six point seven, correcting the mind both the conscious mind but more important, the subconscious, which is carried in the emotions of our heart. And sometimes when I tell people that ninety percent of your behaviors are driven by the subconscious, ninety percent of your addiction ninety percent of your repetitive things that you do every day and grave every day are driven in the subconscious. It feels like a disempowerment, because look how my going to control the sub conscious and really it’s not with the subconscious is controlled by, well, ramming your self in the future. Okay, obviously I got a lot of
[00:07:48] Dr. Delgado: well, as we hear dog in the background, that’s a trigger for us to relax our mind and body and enjoy this opportunity to share with our audience. How important dealing with anxiety or worry or stress. It’s all in. How we interpret it isn’t Dr Patty. I mean, we really put meaning to things, and it could be something that may stress one person out. Another person just takes on the challenge and leans into it right.
[00:08:17] Dr. Pati: Looks at it as an opportunity to alter something. Eso eso, then the fifth area is the oxygenation of the body. So for the sub conscious, I was mentioning that the way we deal with that is not by digging into what’s happened in the past, but with reprogramming, what’s happening in the future and what’s happening in the present when we’re in a coherent heart rate rhythm. So if we put ourselves into a coherent heart rate rhythm and we program hey, I’m going to improve my metabolism and simultaneously my energy and lose the extra pounds. We’ve already affirmed that into the vibration of the water in the body, which means the body’s ready too alter.
[00:09:05] Dr. Delgado: So you’re talking about the vibration in the body. The body is electric. It has fifteen million volts of energy per cubic millimeter. It has amazing way to communicate through the circulation through hormone communication and signaling through the electrical That is the chemical synapses throughout the neurology. So we have a rather elaborate feedback and bio feedback system as we’re fortunate, because otherwise I think you’d be very difficult to handle the amount of stress and challenges and issues. And yet some people really rise to the top. They do incredibly well, even under stressful conditions, others. When they’re under stress, it wipes them out. They almost can’t even deal with another issue. They got to go lay down, take a nap. Maybe even that won’t help them to recover the condition. Addison’s disease Isn’t that an extreme situation where, as you border on that spectrum, where your body can’t produce what everyone thinks is the bad guy cortisol. But it’s really the hormone cortisol that helps you to deal with massive amounts of stress and issues rather than having to depend on adrenalin or epinephrine or even more harsh hormones that I think tend to leave people rather fatigued. What do you think about that issue with the adrenals?
[00:10:30] Dr. Pati: So to the adrenals produced the cortisol, the court is all is of the hormone that’s needed for you to live. If you do not make court is all it’s considered Addison’s disease, and you have to wear a little band around your hand saying that you have a medical alert issue, right. But suppose you’re producing a little bit of court is all you’ve gotten to the point where your stressors have been many for many years and you’ve never recovered, and you’ve gotten to the tenth percentile or the fifteenth percentile, you would be considered to be absolutely normal, whereas you’re producing a response that still way below where it would be adequate. So what the body does in that state is it starts to basically steal the hormones and shunt the hormones from your steroid pathway over to the corners. All pathway because you needed to live. The second thing is because is it immediately starts to disable the receptor sites in the thyroid for thyroid activity and disabled the active thyroid forms, which means that if you’re under long term stress, not on ly do you end up with a low cortisol system, which curie? It’s inflammation. But you also end up with a thyroid that doesn’t function even if your labs are in the normal range. Oh, thes people are usually cold. Your adrenal hormones are in the normal range, age tenth percentile to ninetieth percent o instead of the optimal range, which is seventy fifth percent talent above. And they’re also told that there thyroid is in the normal range, so it becomes disabling because they’re also often, you know, made to believe that this is something that’s completely in their hat, and there’s no physiological counterpart toe what they’re feeling and the symptoms are going to be. Anxiety, depression, fatigue, all kinds of inflammatory pains, eggs, lack of resilience you’re describing is somebody worse. Where somebody just has to shut down when they have a stress? Is somebody who has zero reserve?
[00:12:55] Dr. Delgado: Absolutely. Yeah, And I think about, you know, attending some of the talks with Dr Terry Hurt Hog interferon ologists, that is, he does in archaeological interventions. His father and father before him study thyroid and and adrenaline cortisol access. And also, Dr Wilson and others have continued to look at these conditions. And it’s interesting that both of the doctors, when I interviewed them said the same thing. And that is, people will seek ways to stimulate their mind and body to get an artificial release of the hormone cortisol. Otherwise, they feel so badly they actually feel good when they get someone upset and they enter into a new emotional debate or they eat sugar. Or they consume alcohol or drugs or things that artificially elevate their cortisol. So they form somewhat of an addiction to having that stimulus that artificial and even dangerous, addictive stimulus that it may have been not be UN addiction in the normal sense, like the morphine or heroin or something. But it isn’t. It’s an addiction that has a bio feedback system that makes them feel temporarily good. But then they feel awful after getting an argument or feel bad about getting drunk or using alcohol. Or that is chemicals and drugs. So it really is troubling, particularly to a person who’s overweight and they’re addicted to food. And they can never seem to feel satisfied because cortisol and I. G F one and insulin that she function of these critical hormones is to take sugar, push it into the cells for energy fatty acids, amino acids into the cells from nutrient and rebuilding. And if they don’t produce the correct quantity, they feel starved. I know when I was a young guy of eleven, twelve years old, I was extremely overweight, and I didn’t realize that after one plate of food, I didn’t feel satisfied on another plane, another plate and I didn’t know. I just thought it was just normal. And later when I got control of my adrenal levels and my weight came down because I was no longer obsessively over eating. It was like this huge relief. I couldn’t believe that. You know, I felt good after eating a reasonable size plate of food. It was filled with now rich fruits and vegetables and beans and peace. But in those days I was eating steak, eggs and meat and cheese, and I’d Philip on four five plates, you know, eat six or ten hamburgers. I mean, it was crazy and I got very, very heavy and I couldn’t control it. I really felt out of control.
[00:15:34] Dr. Pati: Yeah, I can completely understand that. And that definitely is something that we see a lot. And the most important thing is to modify the stress response. So what we’re seeing in people where the hormone levels aircrash in their feelings no, lousy with everything is not necessarily chronic stress because all of us have chronic stress. It’s the chronic stress response that changes things. And the chronic stress response is best measured if you want to take a look at where your stress responses by heart rate variability. So if you hook yourself up to a heart rate variability monitor and your heart rate variability, tracing is kind of all over the place. Not only are you burning through your nutrients at a faster rate, right, but you are in a reactive state. If your heart rate variability is in a smooth sine wave, it’s considered to be a coherent river and a coherent rhythm. Your use of your fuel tank, which is the hormones and the nutrients, is peaceful. It’s low, so you’re not just burning through your cortisol system and your thyroid system and the minerals. You’re in a common place, so you can’t change the hurricanes in life. But you can alter the way in which the body accepts and response to the hurricane. And that’s what makes all the difference. So learning how to control the heart rate variability and using it as a feedback, which you, Khun Dubai Just hooking yourself up to a monitor is the way to know whether or not you’re able to get to a spot where your body is protected.
[00:17:26] Dr. Delgado: So it’s an actual device that clicks chur to your ear is, and there there are devices that you can clip and well, actually send a signal, intends to help reduce anxiety and changes thie, a pulse of energy. So you work a lot with energy medicine, don’t you, Dr Patty? I mean, there’s things you can do to help stabilize oneself with energy. Medic Medicine devices,
[00:17:55] Dr. Pati: Yes. So let me first go back to what you were asking about. The heart rate variability. So there are machines that will do things to like, there’s, you know, the Alfa Stim machine. That’s one. I think that’s what you’re talking
[00:18:09] Dr. Delgado: about south of stem. Exactly. They use it in in drug rehabilitation. We helped some autistic kids with the staff. Estonia.
[00:18:18] Dr. Pati: So this is I would consider this to be more powerful than that, because these heart rate variability monitors are a form of bio feedback and the one that we uses inner balance up from heart, Ma. And basically, what happens is that this is your disputes the power in your hands, not in the hands of a machine that stimulating you but in your hands. We teach you somewhere between ten and twenty five techniques that you will be able to convert yourself from this rhythm over this rhythm within anywhere between thirty to ninety seconds. It’s not thirty to ninety minutes like meditation, which is in the head. It’s thirty to ninety seconds, which comes from the heart, because we now of course, know that the heart signals the head nine times more than the head signals the horror. So when we’re trying to get into our heart rate variability to rhythm and coming from here, it’s not as efficient as if we use ah, heart focused meditation that comes from the heart. The conversion rate is a lot faster. So when I in about ten years ago, you know, on the five point mark mind and I used to use tell everybody Oh well, you do some mind exercises, meditate, breed all great. But five years ago, when we hit the tools from heart math and started to give people the recommendation to buy the inner balance and just monitor themselves, the success went through the roof. Because in order to balance hormones, you have to balance that the internal chronic stress response. You cannot balance hormones without doing that, because if you do, you’LL just be chasing your tail by only more hormones on board and you have something that’s right, King. So let’s talk about the environment. So this supose to energy medicine is to recognize that body is an electrical field. Obviously, it’s an electro magnetic, energetic field, and it’s connected on every level itself. Energetically. It’s also connected through currents that we can’t see electromagnetic fields to the trees, to the everything dogs, cats, turtles, earthworms were connected toe everything. And our our chief communication methodology with the world around us happens to be our heart rate variability. Our heart rate variability goes fifteen, two, twelve to fifteen feet outside of spaced upon measurements done by a magneto meter. And they’re now able to show they have very good studies showing that if I sit here and I put myself into a sine wave rhythm, my dog will also be in that wave, and so will the tree. And so will everything else. So first of all, as publish that we are an energy field and we are affected by energies around Gus. So what do we tell our patients to do? We say Aye, Get outdoors, right, right. Take your clothes off and stick your feet into the earth, soak up the sun, breathe the oxygen, drink the water structured water and be in a state of joy because the state of joy is a vibration programs the structure of your water, and then your body functions better. So that’s the simplest energy medicine. The simplest energy medicine is to do what the long living did who were high hooking up to God’s and nature’s gifts, which is go outside, connect to the ground. Getting a son oxygen er thing joy, right, right Point model hormones is the sun. The nutrients is the soil in the or the detox is the water. That mind is the subconscious joy and the oxygen is the body. So that’s the five point model. The simplest form is energetic. How long does it take to regenerate like that? If you’re starting from an extremely degenerated position where most of us are starting from it, Khun take you decades to get back the appropriate regenerative capacity of the body. So you’ve gotta accelerate it, and the way that we accelerate it is through the basic system of five points, where we optimize the hormones and nutrition and optimize the pH detoxification optimized. The mind obstinate, optimized the oxygenation. But then there’s more advanced techniques that you can use when you have somebody with advanced disease that just doesn’t have that time benefit. So what are those? Those air usually devices that utilize light, sound, heat, magnetism, frequencies, all of those things to correct in a much more accelerated fashion. And we’ve been using those in our clinic for quite some time, and it’s definitely celebrated.
[00:24:04] Dr. Delgado: So do you include within that aging orb? Jing is a higher level than she do. You use PMF, which is a Swiss made similar to the Beamer Matt, do you use a Q R s? There’s variations on that. I know I’ve been utilizing these with some of the children on the spectrum with Asperger’s and those people who have maybe suffer from very depressed immune system in their challenge with cancer and their body’s immune system has declined. And is it true that the heart has amongst the highest energetic frequency, and it rarely ever develops cancer. But other organs that have low frequencies tend to be more susceptible to cancers of various types. Is there some truth to that? Have you seen that in the literature?
[00:24:57] Dr. Pati: Yeah, it has something to do with the voltage of the heart, and the voltage of the heart is negative enough that it does not get cancer on Daz. That voltage changes the cells become susceptible to it. As far as thie machines, you’re mentioning the PMF, the Beamer. Thank you rs. There are many different ways to correct energetic fields and their many different ways that are appropriate to use and including the Beamer. We have a lot of people who use the Beamer. I have a Beamer myself. Um, the thing you have to sow, there’s many different ways to do it, and we have some devices peaceful
[00:25:41] Dr. Delgado: because a BMW. So what is? Beamer stands for her. Do we know the acronym? We’LL Look it up for you, but it’s an energy device, right? It’s like a mat, and you said a device connected
[00:25:51] Dr. Pati: right er on. One of the things you have to be aware of when you’re using electrical mechanisms to accelerate the correction of the electrical field is if they’re throwing off what we call bad Emma’s, if you will. So you always have to look at that. And if you are getting dirty EMF production from any of the devices, you’ve gotta neutralize it. There’s so that so when we use devices as opposed to using nature. The thing that I found is you’ve got to pay attention to whether or not you’re getting dirty EMFs. And if you are, there’s a way to imagine them. If you are anyone a neutralized
[00:26:36] Dr. Delgado: when you say there’s a way to measure them, there is a device of some type that measures your total exposure.
[00:26:43] Dr. Pati: Yeah, there’s actually devices that measure those. Yeah, and I don’t I don’t have one right now. Otherwise I would be able to show it to you. But yeah,
[00:26:52] Dr. Delgado: for nearly twenty years, instead of going into a stuffy Jim A CZ, you know, I take my set of steel dumbbells and I go to the water side, either step in the sand and pretty much take my shirt off and everything and start lifting. Kroll impressing for sometimes half are an hour, hour and a half sippin on organic green drinks and, you know, really taken in the wonderful aRer at a very high, sustained, energetic heart rate. And I just feel incredible. You know, most people during that kind of workout would probably feel a little burned out, but I’ve been doing it for so long that my body looks forward to it, and without it, I tend to notice that I just I don’t feel like on top of the world like I do. When I do work out and I might goal is to work out. You know, like many people, I set a goal to do seventies weak, but my net average over the last twenty years is working out about four days week, about an hour worth at a sustained heart rate over one hundred fifty beats a minute. And, you know, I think for me it’s helped in many ways to build up my immune system. My resilience, emotional strength. And I just you know, I can’t tell you how. Also learning how to eat whole organic, fresh plant based protein foods in sufficient quantities. I mean, I have, you know, bowls of fruit and vegetables next to me. I have organic beets, you know, right next to me. So So you know, some people advocate fasting and going long periods without eating. I just find if you eat the right foods and you eat when you’re a little bit empty, little weak, you feel your blood sugar dropping a little bit. You eat you sustain that. That added glucose enters at two hours per minute from eating fruit or vegetables beans, and then it helps to burn the difference from your body fat. You mentioned earlier that beginning to show of individuals have been struggling with problems with being overweight, particularly the abdomen area. And you know, belly fat is a troubling thing, because genetics will pre determine where that fact concentrates the most. But when people consume large amounts of fat, as currently, these certain diets are advocating to stabilize insulin. When I looked through the literature and guidance medical physiology and I looked to the literature on hormones and the science of nutrition and nutrient uptake, I don’t see the advantage of eating massive amounts of fat like these people are advocating. I see the advantage of learning to titrate your calories and eating appropriate amounts. That’s consistent with your current physical activity. And you could only know that when you’re in touch with your body and your adrenals are functioning properly. Which brings us back to adrenal and thyroid function, doesn’t
[00:29:37] Dr. Pati: it? Yes, yeah, it brings us back to our lifestyle. I mean, adrenal thyroid function is usually off because of the chronic lifestyle that we’re leading, which is giving us a chronic stress response. And I think that it is, You know, what we found. Our strength in our clinic is more just, you know, we’ve We’ve seen ten to twelve thousand patients in that clinic and trained a bunch of doctors who’ve seen ten two thousand ten to twelve thousand patients themselves. So what my experience has been there is just that the diets that suit people vary based upon the persons lifestyle, based upon so many factors that, you know, if you if I had to make a generalisation about eating, I would say that what you’re doing right there with the vegetables. It’s like we recommend fifty percent vegetables in every meal or every snap even. And then a small percent protein, a small percentage of complex carbs and percentage of fat there. So, yeah, so it’s It’s a very standard, and it varies, though, for people. But the guidance of eating more plants, more raw, more vegetables, organic because it paradise produces, you know, thirty to forty percent more Mitri ints if it’s organic, those things are general principles which we teach everybody. So there’s few people I think that can keep up with you in terms of how healthy you eat. You know, it
[00:31:18] Dr. Delgado: is probably a mindset and a commitment if if if you if you take a look at my my microscope here, I don’t know if you can see it’s city right next to my stage. I don’t know if it shows that here. Yeah, uh, you know, for me being able to get that immediate feedback of what I ate and how it affects my bloodstream for hours after I’ve consumed certain foods,
[00:31:46] Dr. Pati: you know exactly what’s going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, You have a couple of understanding of it that is unparalleled. It’s it’s truly it’s truly impressive.
[00:31:59] Dr. Delgado: Well, I’ve created an online course on my Cross capi with Dr Aneel Bash Nick, and he’s out of Florida for twenty two years as a medical doctor in training. He also was studying blood microscopy, and we met at the last Orlando convention, A for M of the American County Academy of Anti Aging Medicine, and we have collaborated to do an online course at Del Grounder Protocol to train doctors and practitioners and even just people are fascinated about health because otherwise trust me on this, people are guessing about what quantity of food, What foods are right for them. They’re not measuring not only their hormonal response to the foods they eat, but the lipid response immediate amount of tri glitz rise, which is found in the blood. They’re not understanding the glucose response there, making all these assumptions. And for forty years I’ve had the advantage of Loch, along with Dr O’Neill, who likewise agrees with me that looking under blood and or a six thousand power manc magnified microscope phase contrast, you can see the immune system, the white cells, the red cells that terrain, the background, how much fat is in the blood, how good the circulation is. And people don’t realize that just eating two or three fatty meals will elevate blood trickles, rides and reduced circulation to the blood Kapler’s of the brain by thirty percent and that last for hours. That’s why I believe so many people have to depend on coffee. I don’t drink a sip of coffee. I just don’t need the caffeine. It’s not necessary if I eat a heavy meal and there’s a video I recently produce and sent out to my mail list a couple of days ago. So those people who go to the knick delgado dot com and click on the YouTube section you’LL see a video titled Is Olive Oil Healthy? And in a Siri’s of sequences I showed not only demonstrated under a microscope the foods that I ate that’s advocated by Kato Dieter’s, but also I compare it to those eating plant based whole food eating. I compared it to Michael Clapper, who’s a doctor who’s worked with me, teaching plant based, oil free eating and which is, you know, consistent with one of my cookbooks that I created simply healthy cookbook, which, as you know, for forty years I’ve been following this kind of a lifestyle piece. So what, You can’t go oil free for forty years? Oh, sure I can. And sure, occasionally I get oil in the restaurant foods that I eat, but I mean very selective. When I go to restaurants and I tell him, Prepare my food side dishes. Do you might baked potatoes without oil? Give me a salad without the salad dressing. I want Bell, somebody bell, some vinegar. There’s certain things we can do with their diet. But for me, some people live to eat. I know that we have to understand that the foods wheat is simply the energy and I just thrill and feeling energetic and clear From the morning moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep and knowing that I have that clarity of mind and body and clean arteries. It just helps me to get through massive amounts of stress and challenges and issues. Where I remember in my younger days, I didn’t understand the connection to my diet, my exercise, my mind set. And when I would be stressed, you know, I would just be wiped out. I couldn’t deal with it. And so I think that particularly as I approach age sixty five this year, you know, for me to train and to feel good and to serve serve as a role model. I know I watch you dance and your balance and your ability to do things on a ball that I would fall flat on my face. I mean, you have some core strength. That’s absolutely amazing. Sangeeta, Patty and I, you know, I applaud you because you know you kind of laugh, you say, Well, I don’t really exercise that. Yes, you do that. That’s intense exercise, that’s that’s impressive. And, you know, for each person, we’ve got to do the kind of movements that we enjoy, right? You know, for me, I love what I do lifting weights and running fast and burning up a lot of fat calories because I tend to gain fat easily. I I was a fat kid on my life, you know, I wasn’t fit all my life. And so for me to stay in shape, it’s really important to let people know that I have guided people who’ve lost and needed to drop fifty to one hundred pounds of body fat and keep it off twenty, thirty years later. You know, because it’s one thing to lose weight rapidly by starving yourself and eating a lot of protein and fat foods and dehydrating. But another thing to learn it as a way of life, a lifestyle isn’t that what it’s about? Lifestyle, medicine and really recognizing that What what was that? Thomas Edison said. You know, the foods that we eat is our medicine of the future, right?
[00:36:51] Dr. Pati: Yes, yes, I have to applaud you on your regimen. I’m like,
[00:37:00] Dr. Delgado: Well, they say you become the five people you hang out around the most, and it’s important because let’s face it, some people don’t have. It’s not just that they don’t have the discipline. They just have never experienced following a healthy lifestyle for anything longer than a few days. You know, they they fast on Good Friday and they do certain things and, you know, they avoid certain animal products and things. You know, in certain holidays that’s finding good. But people keep talking about fasting all the time, when in reality you’re always in a state of purity and your blood looks immaculate, I can tell you one hundred percent. I tested a gentleman who’s ninety one years old, rate Wilson. I tested him last month when I went to Porta Vallarta to his villa, and I brought samples of his blood back, and he works out three times a day, eats lots of fruits and vegetables and really is, you know, an example of a man ninety one years old, sharp mentally works out three times a day, and I got to say that, you know, for me, that’s quite an inspiration to look at a ninety one year olds blood under a microscope and say, I can’t tell the difference between a five year old and a ninety one year old who’s maybe my little grand baby. I’m probably going to snip a little drop of her blood, you know, because you know these when she reaches five or six months old, you know, just to show. I know I tested some of my kids when they’re really young, and I wanted to see how good their blood looked and you know it. It’s pristine and beautiful, particularly if they’re breast fed and then the transition eating just fruit and vegetables and whole food. There’s there’s this whole time table that I put in one of my books, grow young and slim about, you know, Actually, there’s a book mastering mastering the powers of your inner health and where I talked about the sequence of foods that baby should be fed and I knew you’re going to be a grandma pretty soon. I’ma grandpas of a few months ago, and it’s so important to teach our kids what they should eat and how to raise a healthy child and at every stage of life on into being a senior and it advanced ultra senior. My goal is to break the all time world record for healthy aging. I’ve said this before. I know in fifty eight years I’LL have exceeded one hundred twenty four years of life and that will make me the oldest healthiest living individual in the history of mankind. And that’s my goal. So every day I walk my talk and look forward to what can I do to learn from people like yourself? Dr. Patty, because this heart rate variability, You’ve got me intrigued. How often do you wear on can you wear throughout the day like a heart rate monitor that you do when you’re exercising? Win And how often give me kind of a breakdown of how I should start. You know me, I’m a take action kind of guy when I hear something that I really need to do.
[00:39:46] Dr. Pati: U S O. There’s two ways to do this. One is to download an app called Inner Balance from Heart. Matt’s got Ord and toe order the ear piece. The your piece costs between one hundred, one hundred and fifty dollars, depending upon what, what time of the year it isthe, and that’s your feedback mechanism. And then you’ve got to figure out what it is that you’re utilizing to get yourself in the green. The green is the sine wave, so there’s many different techniques you can use. There’s a technique called quick coherence, where you really create a virtual reality of yourself in a place of great joy where you’re experiencing it, you’re smelling it, you’re feeling it, you’re hearing it, you’re seeing it. And then there’s many other techniques you can use. Your goal is to get yourself into the green. So what one does is for three to five minutes in the morning and three to five minutes in the evening. Put the thing on. I do, ah, breathing exercise or whatever kind of exercise you want to do and get yourself to a spot where you’re in the green because you stayed there for hours afterwards. So even people who have insomnia and so on. We asked them to go ahead and put themselves in the green before going to sleep.
[00:41:11] Dr. Delgado: Cool. So I looked up heart rate variability. Yes, and I have it on my phone and I’LL go about and order this biofeedback tool to reduce stress by Richard. Uh, Give Ertz howdy Cesena, but you’re given its
[00:41:28] Dr. Pati: look at the one on heart math dot org’s website because that’s the one I have the most experience with in the patient. That’s the one I was talking about. It’s called Inner balance.
[00:41:38] Dr. Delgado: Inner Bells. Okay,
[00:41:40] Dr. Pati: And then there’s many techniques. I would say that out of any technique to regenerate your body, not just to be well but to regenerate your cells. The strongest technique is going to be the one that alters the vibration of the heart. Because the strongest electromagnetic field that structures your water in your body is that beat to beat variability.
[00:42:10] Dr. Delgado: Wow. Fantastic. So how long ago did you start using this device for yourself? And then I’m assuming you also have been using it with your patients and with the doctors use train.
[00:42:22] Dr. Pati: Yes, We, uh I was mentioning that in the mind bubble, I always used meditation, which is a conscious form which takes thirty to sixty minutes to give you that full of facts. We started to use and and it was fine. It’s just that not many people sit for thirty to sixty minutes. That’s Amore. Uh, when I discovered the heart math stuff, which was probably about five or six years ago, we instituted it on some patients. We would recommend it here and there. But what we started to see is that the people who used it, their results, it’s not about using the actual inner balance up because that’s just a feedback mechanism. It’s file feedback. It tells you where you’re going. But using techniques to change your heart rate variability made an impact on every aspect of their house, so we started to make it mandatory. So in our practice now, when you come in, you’re not going to choose. Oh oh, I want hormones. No, I want nutrients. It’s It’s actually only safe if you’re regenerating all pieces because you give someone hormones. But you don’t have enough cobalt to detoxify the estrogen, or you don’t have enough zinc to activate your your testosterone or you don’t have the pH that will allow the body to assimilate and utilize them properly. So you end up having to do a little bit of each thing. And on the mind bubble, the most powerful one, and I would suggest, Is that you?
[00:43:49] Dr. Delgado: Wow. So is it possible than that, using this evolved five step approach that, in essence, as you and I teach and educate people watching and listening to the show that the reality is that we can offer a kind of an advance online course so we can reach not just hundreds but hundreds of thousands of people, maybe even millions of people? Because I think the reality is if people know they have a choice about improving their health and overcoming chronic fatigue, building up their bodies, immune systems so they’re not so susceptible to chronic infections and auto immune diseases even, of course, cancer. Now we look at the increasing rate of cardiovascular disease, circulatory problems. I don’t know of a condition, as you pointed out, that isn’t touched directly or indirectly by this five point model. And so, just to summarize once again, this five point model and what do we do to to measure the hormones? What method do you like to do? A combination of blood, saliva and urine, depending on what type of hormones that your working to understand the metabolism of to kind of guide the patient and you know also the symptoms and the questionnaires. You tie that all incorrect?
[00:45:14] Dr. Pati: Yes. And of course, the symptoms are not related to just hormones. They’re related, Teo. Everything on the system. And we use a combination of things. But we usually start with serum because serum is what the insurance is cover. It’s also what the data proves is protective as an example, um, if you measure a salad, very testosterone or a urinary testosterone or a serum testosterone. Out of those three, there’s only data for serum testosterone. And what level lowers cardiovascular mortality by forty percent that was published in the cardiology literature. So you know that if you get a male above five hundred sixty four for the testosterone in the serum that the party, uh, vascular mortality drops forty percent, you don’t have any number like that corresponding in the saliva or the urine. So even if you use the other ones, you still have to use serum. If you’re talking about protection
[00:46:21] Dr. Delgado: well. And of course, you can also measure some of the binding proteins, like sex hormone binding globulin on ly in the Sermon of Blood, and we can measure thie, binding proteins for cortisol, the thyroid binding globulin and so forth. So these things also show us whether they’re loosely or tightly bound and ALF human. The factors of how much bio available or free testosterone is available, or the circulating thyroid free T three thie availability of cortisol. So it also has another purpose. And in addition, besides the data that it shows, there are advantages, though, to measuring Saleh very cortisol. Because cortisol varies throughout the day and we might have a person has a normal level at, say, in the morning and towards the afternoon. It fades, and they also have symptoms of fatigue. And it said about that time that their quarters level drops drastically, or could be that the they’re total levels seem to drop. And in the twenty four year in, we measured the total load of cortisol metabolites or particularly of estrogen metabolites that we get a far bigger picture of. Is there estrogen dominance? Is this one of the reasons why they have obesity of the belly or of the thighs? And why is this fat accumulating faster than is being burned not just because of insulin, but also because of excess hormone, particularly estrogen dominance. So there’s a number of reasons to maybe measure each of these types of tissues, right?
[00:48:01] Dr. Pati: Yeah, you can. I mean, you’re going to get good information from all three. Um, I used to rerun all three on every patient in the beginning. My practice. And what I found is that, um as faras estrogen dominance, there’s no such thing as not estrogen dumb. A soon as you turned twenty five years old, your estrogen dominant because automatically, by definition, your progesterone is going to start declining faster than your estrogen. So from mid twenties onwards, pretty much everybody’s gonna have estrogen dominance. It’s just a question of how much and how much you can easily see clinically generally. So what I found with the court is all is that if you measure the entire cortisol pathway into the serum, you can diagnose the adrenal situation one hundred percent as well as the saliva. So what I do is I run it in the serum first. I’m not the cortisol level because the cortisol level is useless
[00:49:13] Dr. Delgado: in this, Erm because it
[00:49:15] Dr. Pati: was all useless, because I mean, it can give you some idea of certain things that could super low in the morning. But basically cortisol levels in the serum fairy from second to second because they’re adapting to the stress. So if you look at the court is all precursors, you look at pregnant alone for just for unstable form of the which is the S and testosterone, you’re going to be able to know whether or not there’s an adrenal issue. And what I ended up doing over the years is eliminating the four point celebrate quarters, all because the diagnosis was pretty much one hundred percent corresponding. If you ended up using the seventy fifth percentile for everything in the serum, so I just don’t do it. It’s not that it’s a bad test. It’s actually an excellent test. As you pointed out, it actually will show you exactly where in the day you’re having the problem. And mainly I don’t use it because I don’t end up needing use it anymore. But it’s they all are good information. Even the urine metabolite give you a lot of information that you won’t get out of this. So if you’re looking for a lot of information, you’re going to get it by measuring all three. Um, with the kind of patients that I mostly the patient population that I have, I’m just looking to do something that is economical for them. Most of them are using their insurance for the serum. And I would say ninety plus percent of the time we’re getting the full picture from that if we’re not successful and if we’re missing something or if the patient comes in and asks for celebrate quarters, all I’LL get it. But I’ve changed my sands towards that. That that’s something that you might not know. But about five years ago, I stopped doing salary portal because I used a different system. I interpret it based upon the seventy fifth percentile for the serum for the whole chain. So then I end up not needing the salad right quarters all anymore. When you
[00:51:15] Dr. Delgado: see yeah, when you say the seventy fifth percentile, you’re saying if a level say, for example is optimum at a level ten for cortisol, do you simply then look att? At what point? How does the seventy five percent work in? I mean, give me an idea.
[00:51:33] Dr. Pati: Yeah, So, for example, uh, d h e A s normal range is, say, forty five to two hundred sixty six in a female. Okay, Some morning number should really be in the upper core tile. So the morning number and a female for that should be somewhere between two hundred plus. So, you know, because the morning should be the highest. So and that’s a stable form. It’s D h E A s. So you’re not having the court is all variations. So if you find that the whole chain is down under the seventy fifth percentile, you know you have adrenaline sufficiency through the day, then you don’t end up having to confirm it unless the patient is extremely interested in
[00:52:22] Dr. Delgado: right. So seventy five percent of two. Sixty six you’re taking the upper range and saying That’s around two hundred at morning level
[00:52:30] Dr. Pati: and it divided in half and divided half. You’re taking the upper court.
[00:52:34] Dr. Delgado: Yeah, well, great. So let’s reconvene, then on our next segment, and we’LL go into more depth. Since I feel like we’ve done a good job of covering adrenals in cortisol and you would agree that outdoor daylight is part of your exercise is a great way to stimulate natural production of cortisol. Correct?
[00:52:57] Dr. Pati: Yeah, I mean outdoor. We’ve underestimated the fact if you we’LL never find enough reasons to explain why nature works. So we can think that we have a reason, and we can think that it’s because it’s producing cortisol or because it’s giving us vitamin D. But at the end of the day, word our infancy of understanding the ten thousand or ten million reasons why the sun actually is good for our body. But we were born naked and we were born outdoors at one point, and we know that the people, for example, getting back to data who proved that the circadian rhythm is critical for the function of cells. They actually won the Nobel Prize in twenty seventeen three medical doctors just for proving that because we know that that sun is entering in through the super charismatic nucleus, programming every single cell in your body, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be out in it. So you got the right idea. I’ve seen you out on that beach doing that and with the bare feet. So you know, I know we always look for explanations for it, and and I would say that the cortisol is one of the things I’ve actually seen, but there’s another a thousand reasons. So you know, back to the prescription of yet naked. Getting the sun connect to the earth, be enjoy, breathe the oxygen and drink the structured walker.
[00:54:26] Dr. Delgado: Absolutely. Also in our program, we tend to support people with adrenal DMG and adrenal sido trope in. We want to make sure they’re getting sufficient adrenal glandular, their studies that shows that the’s glandular extracts go right to supporting the cortisol and the adrenals. There’s various herbs, garlic after Gonda. Ah, whole host of very important herbs that just looking through the literature and the science of what ancient societies would do for those people who had what appeared to be adrenal dysfunction or symptoms of. And we’ve really done something to look at that herbal medicine intervention some of the longest live cultures in the world, like in Japan and Okinawa and Asian cultures. They use herbal medicine quite a bit more so than pharmaceutical interventions, and it’s in these people that we find the longest lived people. So I think it’s important to recognize that these air, not inferior secondary approaches, that we’re talking about thes probably in the near future, with the right amount of education will become the primary foundation that people need to follow and then looking at other interventions as simply on ly when necessary. And these aggressive interventions at times could be, uh, problematic from a scientific standpoint or even a risk factor standpoint. So I think that you and I have been teaching for more use that I can think back when we first met in London, I think was our first meeting, possibly in two thousand. Was it five or six? So, yeah, that that’s a subject for another story in lectures that before the prestigious organizations of physicians. But thank you very much, Dr Patty, I’m going to put out your website contact. What is it? Say June
[00:56:27] Dr. Pati: S A J u n e dot com
[00:56:30] Dr. Delgado: perfect. And we’LL send a show link for our podcast and a YouTube link listing the information will go ahead and send the chauffeur transcription so they get word for word what was set in the YouTube video as well. And we’ll have that in the show notes because I think that anyone who’s interested in optimum health and wellness if they somehow recognize that the first step towards restoring a person too often health has to begin with a clear understanding of the Drina ls and the frontline defense of our whole body. And then this important five step principal. And I’m so excited to start utilizing the heart rate variability. I’m totally going. You told me about it before. I think this breakers show clarified it so well for me. I kind of like the details for myself like Oh, but how do you do this and get the little device and order this and do that? So I’m in. I’m I mean completely. So it’s great to see your smile. I’m sure I’LL see you in Orlando coming up in May, if not sooner. And you be well and you’d be happy. Thank you so much.
[00:57:38] Dr. Pati: Well, bless you. Take care