[00:00:00] Dr. Nick: Dr Nick Delgado here about a podcast and a webinar that I believe can transform your life. What is the number one killer in the United States and in the western world? I’m here with Tim Nash, who has a very moving story indeed. A story that goes back to his own father and Nash.
[00:00:28] Tim Nash: Well, how you doing, Nick? Okay, so right. My story goes that I was actually on teamusa with Nick Delgado and lit out lifting all comers at the Arnold Classic, thinking that I was doing everything okay, even though my my dad had passed away from a massive heart attack when he was at fifty seven years old, um, I thought I was doing everything better. It wasn’t eaten any of the fast food out there, but I was still eating the standard American diet, Which, by the way, if you think about it, the acronym, it’s sad literally. It is. It’s s a D standard American diet, and it’s sad, and that’s what it is. So we’re out there eating everything Regular eating steaks was a big steak and potatoes type of guy. And lo and behold, six months after we finished out lifting all comers at the Arnold Classic. I started to feel like flu ish symptoms literally just thought it was the flu. I kept on working hard. I was working long hours and just kept on shrugging it off for about three months. And at about three months after that, I finally said Okay and I went in and walked into the emergency room with my wife and and we said, Look, this flu keeps coming back. Can you give me something? And they said, no, but we got a room for you. I said, Why? They said, Well, you had a heart attack. You’re not having one now necessarily. But the markers air there, the enzymes that they’re so you’ve had one. They said they didn’t know when it happened, but that it was probably when I first started feeling the flu like symptoms and that that’s the way it presents to me. So luckily, nothing else happened. I sat in there for about five days, waiting for my time to get an angiogram done because everybody else kept coming in with what they called stem ease and kept bumping me out of the spot. Soon as I finally got my angiogram done. They about fell out of their chairs. They said I was the worst that they’d seen all year, and I needed a quart. A quintuple bypass so instantly they set me up on the calendar for the next day and I got cracked and Quinn
[00:02:40] Dr. Nick: tackles process and literally tore open and then put in softness veins from the leg and trying to get some more
[00:02:49] Tim Nash: blood flow. You know, we did. They did a couple things. They did, Ah, mammary artery re directions. And they put those enough for two of them and then for the other three. And they did the the harvesting from the vein from the leg.
[00:03:03] Dr. Nick: So you really had no symptoms. You were working out exercising Mohr, consistent than most most people, I mean, literally lifting tens of thousands of pounds every week. Training, lifting, You were active. You basically, you know, felt like the doctors did ever imply there’s a pram, your blood lipids, your cholesterol. What were those levels at that time?
[00:03:27] Tim Nash: Well, my cholesterol wasn’t actually bad. It was my total cholesterol was still within range. And it was good
[00:03:33] Dr. Nick: range of the U. S.
[00:03:35] Tim Nash: Except his range accepted range
[00:03:37] Dr. Nick: of where most people die of a heart attack or stroke.
[00:03:39] Tim Nash: And but my biggest problem was my H deals were very, very low.
[00:03:43] Dr. Nick: Okay, do you happen to remember? I know what the LDL cholesterol wass.
[00:03:47] Tim Nash: You know, I’ll have to look that one up. I don’t have that off the top. Alright,
[00:03:51] Dr. Nick: LDL is just what we call the bad cholesterol. And there is some evidence from Stanford that even a higher quote HDL level, which is supposed to remove, redone the closer from the arteries isn’t protective. When the L deal exceeds ninety five, that seems to be about the cut off. Now. It’s interesting that you and I had talked about a plant based Whole Foods died more or less toward chicken free red meat, free fish free, no dairy product. But it wasn’t your way of eating. Your family had a way of preparing tasty meals that you enjoy. Your father probably had a very similar died as well. But is it true that your father died? At what age and was it a
[00:04:34] Tim Nash: heart attack? T seven of a massive heart attack and he died at the gym. He was well, it was kind of bad. He was just came back from a vacation in Lake Tahoe and and decided he needed to cram for his appointment to go see his cardiologists off. He went right to the gym and was on the treadmill twenty four hour fitness and went down. No one saw him go down. Oh my
[00:04:59] Dr. Nick: God, So such a tragic situation. And I know that there’s a little bit of a tradition. I know that. For example, sumo wrestlers drink a lot of beer, too. Alter their hormone levels so that when they eat that one or two big meals a day, they retain a lot of calories because they want to get real big, real heavy for hundred pounds and and above. For sumo wrestlers ofall those doing intermittent fasting and tryingto skip meals and skip breakfast. What you know in your mind made you think that it was safe or acceptable to eat a similar diet that your own father had. And did the doctors ever tell you that your diet was in question?
[00:05:42] Tim Nash: Well, actually, I wasn’t eating the same diet that my dad was. I mean, I was doing better because I didn’t want to get into this situation? Yes. Thought I wasn’t getting into the situation. Right. But even after, I mean, the thing that’s so messed up is, even after I had the quintuple bypass and I’m meeting with the cardiologists, they’re saying you know what? The way you ate and everything else you did pretty good. You lasted forty seven years, so just tone it back just a little bit, eat the same stuff and you’LL be fine. And that was the advice I was given. I actually cut out all red meat. I was going to make it to where I was gonna have maybe once a quarter as a special thing on baby just on my birthday or something along those lines. But I cut it out completely from that standpoint. And sure enough, it didn’t matter. After my fiftieth birthday, I went out and came back and ended up having to get a stand.
[00:06:37] Dr. Nick: And by the way, a Colin fallacy is that by just quote unquote giving up red meat, you essentially are excluding the primary source of fat and cholesterol. Certainly read me tired fat, then say chicken or fish. But even tuna packed and waters hiring cluster. All that red meat chicken has a CZ. Much cholesterol has red meat. In fact, most chickens are very fatty. When we defeat with the skin, you kind of pulled the skin off. There’s a lot of grease on your hands, so most animals are forced fed. They want them to be fatty, or they can sell for higher dollar amount. And not only that, it’s not just the fat is the cholesterol that’s permeated throughout the tissue. You can’t even see it. It’s part of the flesh. So when you consume and even if you’re taking the fatty parts, cutting it off the red meat or pulling the skin off. All the cholesterol’s permeate in the animal product itself, and the body we know can only get rid of about one hundred milligrams of cholesterol day. We are omnivores. We can eat a little bit of me, which might be about three ounces, maybe a day or every other day. And so I often tell people, you know what? If I tell you to eat three ounces of lean meat a day, you’re probably going to cheat on that. You may not even measure three ounces and then you might have it for lunch. You know, some meat within your sandwich and then meet for dinner and then maybe eggs for breakfast. Were you eating any aches at that time?
[00:07:57] Tim Nash: A time when I yes, I actually was a big eater. I left my eggs.
[00:08:01] Dr. Nick: Wow! Wow. So no one ever told you that a yokes are amongst the highest source of cholesterol? Some people say, Oh, but eggs have lessons and and it impulse. If I’s most fights, look up the word multiplication. Itjust seems simply means to dispersed larger particles of smaller parties. So what? It absorbs better when you absorb the cholesterol. Fatty goes right in the arteries and tissues. They did a study classic study on Tarm are Indians and they’re basically eating corn tortillas, beans, Panola nuts. Ah, lot of fruit and vegetables. They’re fairly poor. They live in the cap copper Candidate, Canyon of Northern Mexico, Chihuahua, Mexico, and they’re known to run nonstop for one hundred eighty miles. But they took these people of an average cluster of one hundred thirty, and ideally, we believe your clusters should be one hundred plus your age and not over one sixty and they took these people with low HDL levels. By the way, they have a shell of about twenty twenty three, twelve okay, and their LDL is usually hovering around sixty or so. They’re vey LDL, which transports trackless rides, adds up to that total of one thirty, and it’s interesting they gave them eggs. Here’s a culture that never he takes that rarely animal product and within one month that three hundred milligrams of cholesterol one egg a day, which is typical to a breakfast where people think, you know, I need my protein. Well, that cholesterol went from one thirty at Skyrocket in. Every single person in the study went up to Well, I believe the study showed approaching. I’m going to say above one eighty. Maybe it was towards two hundred I’LL pull the study for actual numbers of reference, and they put him on it, and the clusters stayed up as long as eight eggs, and when they went off it, the cluster went right back down a one thirty. Within days, they put him back on and went back up. They took him off, it came down. But when you take the average American with the cholesterol already saturated in the tissues of over two hundred. Which, by the way, you can have a cholesterol two hundred be told your normal They gave them eggs. Same study, but the cholesterol didn’t go up any higher. Why? Because the tissues, the arteries, the blood was already saturated and adding that extra cholesterol above the one hundred milligrams a day it won’t have a bump up. So many people reporting that question’s not important. It’s not part of cardiovascular disease will point to that, Studies say. See, when you give cholesterol. Two Americans there in the form of eggs, they don’t have a rising cholesterol, which is, I hope you understand what I just explained.
[00:10:33] Tim Nash: Yeah, no, you’re basically saying that because the standard American diet, which is sad, has already supersaturated everybody with cholesterol. Correct. It’s not actually able to absorb any more cholesterol and raised the cholesterol levels of Americans. That just means that we’re in bad shape
[00:10:48] Dr. Nick: now. You had a very direct conversation with your cardiologists after this last and so, and I’m really happy to hear that this cardiologists, which you could name or not, was supportive of a plant based cholesterol free diet. Yes, tell me about it. I’m not sure if he
[00:11:03] Tim Nash: wants me to put his name out there, although he is pretty proud of the fact that I’ve been doing really well on this. But I want it. When I went in there after the I have the stent, I went up to him and and the doctor says, You know, Tim, you’re special and I said, Oh, gee, thanks, Doc. This is not a good way, way you’re going to be a plant based diet because your body cannot process animal fats like other people can. And again, like Nick’s pointing out is, we’re not really supposed be processing that much. But when I told that so you know that the you know Thie government’s actually been making sure the people are but eating more dairy because they don’t want to subsidize the dairy farmers. So they want to sell to eat more cheese and drink more milk. And that’s just causing more and more the problems. Plus there everybody’s using these things, and they’re starting to put all these hormones in it. So even if milk and cheese was moderately good back in the fifties, they didn’t have any of these hormones that they’re they’re putting in now. And we’re actually all being guinea pigs for that whole get up.
[00:12:10] Dr. Nick: Well, don’t don’t forget, there was early studies done on autopsies of young men aged twenty two from our country in the Korean War. Now, what year was that? Wasn’t that the early I’m going to say fifties that let’s just say and the Vietnam War was definitely the sixties. I’m old enough to remember the Vietnam War in the sixties, and in both cases they found serious cardiovascular disease, and other was afra Socratic plaques in those in the fifties, eating what at that time after World War Two was the four food groups you must have your protein from animal. You must have your dairy parking, which included cheese and eggs and so forth, says from animal, the meat and dairy. Just you wanted us to fall into that belief and then, you know, get your fruits, get your vegetables, maybe some grain. And that was the four food groups it was took. Simplify. So after the World war, they wanted to make it simple for Americans to quote, get good nutrition. But the meat and dairy industry had huge lobbyists. They wanted us to believe that we had to get a protein from animal product. They ignored the studies on humans by Dr Ready Dr Knapp and several other published studies showing that infants and children and every age group you only need about the amount of protein found in whole Platte Foods fruits, specials, beans piece a couple beans, by the way, has twenty grams of protein. The body is in positive nitrogen balance from one cup of beans or just a variety of fruit, special soups and salads, and, essentially, the body. Why? Because the enzymes recycle one hundred and fifty grams totally all the most complete proteins known a man and the digestive trucks lefts off and recycle. So we really literally only need to be in positive Nitrogen bounce twenty grams approaching today, not one gram per kilogram or seventy or some exaggerate one gram per pound of body weak or half a half a gram of
[00:14:02] Tim Nash: protea. I use half of what they were saying. One gram per pound, right? Are you kidding me? At the time, I was two hundred seventy pounds. Wow, that’s a lot of grams of
[00:14:14] Dr. Nick: protein. Yeah, some of my best references, including our website, go to Delgado protocol dot com. You can also take a look at nutrition facts dot or GE plant positive dot com, maybe dot order, but I believe it’s plant positive dot com and also the book Protein Aholic Sbai, Garth Davis And he wrote as an M. D. A review of all the literature and the mistaken beliefs and the emphasis, too. And the problem is, as you eat more protein, you’re getting more cholesterol and fat altogether because essentially, that’s the components of animal products. So if you’re eating lagoons, you’re getting protein. You’re getting fruits and vegetables. You’re getting tubers, yams and so forth. You’re not only getting more than enough quality protein. Lee Haney wrote a book Fit for Life. He’s Mr Limp, yet I believe it was eight times the role. Arnold arguably said he’s one of the greatest Mr Lampe, Olympians in history, consumes five hundred grams of complex carbohydrates a day in training for getting in top shape to get ripped abs, and he gets about I estimated that’s probably about eighty grams of protein max somewhere around there, which is still way beyond what even elite bodybuilder needs, believe it or not. And he said, the promise. When you go down a fifty grams of carbohydrate, you’re basically there’s no protein sparing effect. See that carbs? The complex carbs our uses fuel. The red blood cells could only take glucose from complex carbohydrates. The brain prefers glucose and enduring aerobic toe anaerobic threshold, which you and I do in Kroll process. You’re basically preferring to burn glucose, but with a train effect like you and I train year round going back, I go back my train schedule over twenty years. Consistently four five workouts a week. I know you’re very consistent as well. Being part of team U. S. A. One of the most elite, strongest strength endurance athletes in history. You and I are neck and neck with world record levels. I sew him inspired. When you talk about
[00:16:17] Tim Nash: the way we’re ready for another one.
[00:16:18] Dr. Nick: I know I don’t. Especially when his fires where you’re shooting for that million pound mark and we’LL talk about that in a minute. But you know what? Here? Your Dr Price said you probably survived because of your exile.
[00:16:29] Tim Nash: Actually. Did. They told me that the reason I survived and probably didn’t even notice anything until I needed a quintuple was because I had so much collateral. Vascular parity built up from all of my endurance training that I didn’t actually have damage to the heart. I do have a slight Q wave thing or something along those lines. They can see that there was a a heart attack that happened, but virtually no damage, So I’m still doing good.
[00:16:56] Dr. Nick: So so for those who don’t understand what collateral circulation is is literally nature’s on bypass. When the heart, for example, before even get chest pain, there’s usually over approaching ninety percent blockage of the main corner artery, and then the heart starts going. Hey, I’m not getting off auctions, so there’s pain. I used to have chest pain when I was in my early twenties before my first T I. A. A transient ischemic attack. I had gone overboard because I wanted to play pro football. Wanted play called football. Long story short, I was eating literally about twelve eggs a day loaded with cheese. No, no sugars, just a lot of protein, lot of red meat, a lot of chicken lot of fish. I really was in amour with the belief that if I ate enough protein somehow that approaching would turn into body protein, which is completely fallacious. I mean, think of the gorilla. That’s what was being told. Toe on eight hundred pound gorilla eats plant foods all day long and find a gorilla you khun, beat in anything physical, muscular weightlifting. They don’t lift, but in wrestling, whatever. Good luck, right? I mean the running story. I mean, they have massive muscle density, massive levels of testosterone without consuming of shr bad of animal product. So it’s it’s interesting is that well, the way you make girls are different. Actually, bonobos, monkeys or ninety seven point six genetic match to us and they stand upright. They looked at each other eyes when they have sex, the fruits and vegetables all day long, and they sustained a marvelous health level. People Oh, but that transition to the human brain. And it required certain protein to jump from the bonobos monkeys from Zaire, Africa to humans. There’s really little or no evidence about the human brain, sustains and strives on whole fresh food. That’s really what we’re arguing, not saying eat processed sugars. He process oils, eat processed meats. And, as you pointed out, meats are chemically engineered thes days.
[00:18:46] Tim Nash: Everything is I mean, even even a lot of the vegetation is chemically engineered. So you still else have to be careful on that. You know, they’ve got everything from the pesticides that they’re putting in their or they’ve been genetically modifying them. One of the things that bothers me the most is is the whole canola oil thing. Because canola oil canola is genetically modified by definition, it stands for Canadian oil, low acid, and it was a wrap seed plant before they genetically modified it. So now if you find products out there, even health products, they say, we’ve got a non GMO cold pressed canola oil. They don’t know what they’re talking about, and they shouldn’t be your health company
[00:19:30] Dr. Nick: what we’ve discovered and we’re confirming what I learned. Working in the Pritikin Longevity Center, the research depart at the Pritikin Longevity Center with Nathan Pritikin, who was an early pioneer in lifestyle medicine, and he actually turned to other doctors that were doing early research. Dr Him’s worth about diabetes. He worked with Lester Morse and true story. Lester Morse was in Santa Barbara, where Nathan Pritikin lived. He had a living center where they put people on a plant based Whole Foods studied reverse diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease. But no one ever publicized it. You know, there was no drug company, no Liberatore company, no surgical company to promote it. So it kind of got lost. Allergic, but critic unfounded. And Pritikin said, well, since I have corner heart disease, and here he was in his fifties, he had no symptoms, no signs. He was an engineer. He liked to jog a little bit, but he had serious blocked arteries. And so he lifted the literature, applied that principle and created later what would be called the Pritikin Better Health program, which I was the director of the outpatient programs. And he also then developed a living center where people were basically put into a facility for thirty days along Santa Monica Beach. They’d exercise three times a day, about twenty minutes morning, afternoon and evening on treadmills are out on the beach. They would eat all day long, meals prepared from the Whole foods buffet, and that food was based on the forerunner to my now simply healthy cookbook. It took me fifteen years to gather restaurants around the world because I gotta admit predictions. Recipes were pretty bland. They didn’t taste very good. We use spices and herbs and items that are internationally known within recipes. Indigenous. I must have a bigger recipe cookbook collection that you can ever imagine from all over the world. I’ve got to travel over the world just like when we went to London and competed in Team U. S. A. And you see the way they need in the UK, too. I mean, it’s like, Okay, they are amongst the most a beast of all Europeans, right, but simply healthy cookbook. You got to try these restaurant. I know your wife has picked up our cookbook and is trying some things out, and I know it The fare runner to a book that you add it to growing and slim. We came out with a aversion after this, and you did a fantastic job in editing and putting that material together. So if you want to learn the latest go to our online course under programs that Delgado Protocol and there’s a cool course called fat loss and fitness, and we get into all the science. I know there’s a lot of controversy now. A lot of people promoting kito diets, paleo diets. And if you really want the science, you really want understand how to get this ideal gold, a good looking body getting the nutrients you need to build up a body for the most elite sports. I don’t know of any sport that exerts is much energy as you and I do in cooling process.
[00:22:14] Tim Nash: No, actually, I was checking up and I said, I said, Well, how much do you guys lift when you’re in your football and you’re on your high training and they come out and it’s about a twelve thousand pound total workout that they do right over the course of an hour. And I’m like, Wow, you know, we knock out one hundred thousand pounds. Sometimes fifty thousands is a regular for about an hour, but I do the hundred thousand pound work out my cross training stuff in in an hour, and I just can’t
[00:22:43] Dr. Nick: believe it would. Tim Nash, I know you’ve actually challenge an entire football team where they got to total there, curl press lips against your chrome presses. Tell me about that out.
[00:22:53] Tim Nash: We Actually, it was It was pretty funny The first time I did it, I actually was a mai. My kids were in elementary school, but the elementary school that they go, Teo goes all the way through high school. So we were talking with the coaches, and coach said, Yeah, come on out and lift with the team. So he had all the linemen get get ready. And he told him that a Someone of the parents of the elementary school kids wants to come out and lift. Guys, let’s just show him what we got. Okay? You guys gonna be in relay fashion, see what you can do to show what you got. Let’s put him down. And as I started lifting and I was lifting twenty fives and they were list lifting twenties because they only had one of each thing, got it. And so I’m left in the twenty fives and buy, You know, about the time I hit. I think five hundred and some odd reps and I’ve already put down five people on the the relay team from their line
[00:23:43] Dr. Nick: as they got exhausted. The next day, I
[00:23:45] Tim Nash: pictured the ex first. They’re sitting there going.
[00:23:47] Dr. Nick: This guy’s like, forty, forty years old. How What is he? Why can’t you keep up with this
[00:23:51] Tim Nash: guy? Uh huh. And then that it goes a couple more to more people dropping. Then they said, by the way, that we forget to tell you he holds the world record in this way. Have fun. And then we get, you know, teach the kids about the difference between fast which muscle and slow twitch muscle and making sure that they trained both. If they want to last the entire game, you’re gonna have to train both.
[00:24:15] Dr. Nick: Well, I’ve got to go a little further. It’s impressive that you beat him, even spotting them five pounds in international competition. I know you and I and my son Nicholas at the time, I believe my son was only fifteen years old.
[00:24:27] Tim Nash: Yeah, he was. It might have been younger. He might have
[00:24:30] Dr. Nick: fourteen or fifteen, but Wayne and I think at the time of almost two hundred forty pounds, his uncles or big boys Yeah, it wasn’t a little guy. Uh, And you what? At that time, how tall you know how Big Re
[00:24:43] Tim Nash: then six foot three and I was about to seventy.
[00:24:46] Dr. Nick: Yeah. Yeah, and I I showed up dripping wet. Maybe five, eight and maybe one seventy five. Maybe. You know, I dropped as low as one sixty nine, But we did it. Their unique team. We we challenged in Dragon route of it. She started the whole sport. Invited the world champions from Germany. Ireland, uh, uk Dubai awhile. Dubai was going to mention Dubai. Yeah. So tell us the stories tell us the story. There was a three man relay and we use forty five pound dumbbells in each hand for international because they didn’t want it to last all night right
[00:25:21] Tim Nash: now. Actually, they thought that, you know, or they had told a bunch of us that they were going to be doing with forties. At least that’s the way I understood. Oh,
[00:25:30] Dr. Nick: yeah. So we were thinking What? We show up. We don’t know where
[00:25:32] Tim Nash: drained with forties. So forty five was brand new to us, and that was also brand new. I think the ire in Ireland team told us the same thing, but Dubai was practicing with forty fives to begin with. So they knew what they’re in for.
[00:25:46] Dr. Nick: Wow! Wow, that’s amazing. So that’s more than a fifteen percent jump in weight, which is brutally heavy. If you ever have done the sport of Koran press. And I know you and I both got inspired. I think I inspired you after competing against dragging Radha vich. And then we took it serious. We you know, we went after international calm opticians. I hunted down Dragon to compete against him everywhere I could find him. But he finally honored us by his recent as what was it? March of two thousand sixteen at the Horror Classic. He invited us and join our two thousand fourteen fourteen. Okay,
[00:26:18] Tim Nash: that’s what the last one I did before I got my
[00:26:20] Dr. Nick: Wow two thousand fourteen. But he joined. He joined Team USA. He didn’t want to go against Team USA.
[00:26:26] Tim Nash: No. Hey, one of our partners on that one. And so he was Yeah, he was a part of Team Musa. And we’re doing the demonstrations at the Arnold Classic. What? We actually had had it Where if anybody could beat us, they were going to win, like ten thousand dollars. Yeah, course. nobody beat us, but
[00:26:45] Dr. Nick: well, it’s interesting because you know, Dragon Ravitch also the inspiration to both of us. Because how old is he now? Would you say sixty? He’s older than me.
[00:26:54] Tim Nash: Late sixties? Yeah, my piece My
[00:26:56] Dr. Nick: associate approaching seventy Because because I’ll be sixty five here coming up You know I still competing Offer a thousand dollar challenge Anyone who could not lift me usually go to the beach. Yeah, old Tim here You won’t even let me try Let you try We’LL know Try. I mean, you know you know You know the truth is on any given Sunday You’re Io Are are one of the dragon Son. What zehme rake of it? Are you raking? Rico? Rico? Yeah. Any of these guys in world competition could easily go ahead had depending on Did you get enough sleep? Is your mental toughness enough? Because it really becomes a mental
[00:27:35] Tim Nash: toughness aboard a mental sport.
[00:27:37] Dr. Nick: And think about it too. When you do kettlebells, there’s a swing with kettlebells, right? So when you’re swinging kettlebells people argue. Well, wait a minute. I see these guys used in twenty five pound dumbbells and the back swing because I know I backs me because I’m trying to pull it back up. I don’t want to harm my joints or anything, but there’s still that point where you bring it here and you gotta press it over here. Kettle bell. They swing it up over there. Way are not a lot worried. We have to stage it here and then press overhead. Chose
[00:28:06] Tim Nash: the hammer, a girl and then approach.
[00:28:08] Dr. Nick: Right. But I’ve seen people, you know, comment on my I posted the video where I broke the world strength endurance record on. And it was a week after you, Booth. Yeah, you’ve ever I love you. It is so cool.
[00:28:23] Tim Nash: Okay, I got it back.
[00:28:24] Dr. Nick: You got it back. Well, you know, that’s the great thing about, you know, friendship. But you know what a friendly competition and cooperation you share with me, your inner secrets I share with you my training tips. But most importantly, we agree that probably when you see that picture of Rico and Dragon and just cover up his head and you look at their lower body. I mean, that’s an inspiration to me. See how ripped and shredded here, dragon Radha bitches and I know that as I reached through the decades of age, that it’s one of the key and teaching principles, because when you’re lifting, you should be breathing heavily. Heart rate going at a good rate. I know. When I broke the world record, I had a medical doctor Martin and heart rate approaching two hundred beats per minute the entire hour. So I was breathing heavy the whole time, you know, and I noticed that reduces free radical damage and dry blood. Your whole body? What did they say? Sixty percent of your muscle groups are above your waist. So when you’re doing cool impresses your stabilising your chest with your back with your lats, your traps, your triceps, your biceps I love it is one of the most complete. Although I do full body routines in my routine on I think you do too. But don’t you find it incredibly invigorating? Great for cardio. I do my cardio mixed with my WeII trained
[00:29:37] Tim Nash: Well, it is cardio. I mean, let’s face it, the way we do it, it is cardio.
[00:29:40] Dr. Nick: Yeah, and the numbers. I think goddess hasn’t heard of you depending on the weight. Whether it doesn’t matter what is twenty five thirty, thirty five pounds were doing somewhere between one thousand two thousand lifts. And you know, in a time when I like about you, you trained fast to
[00:29:57] Tim Nash: thirty fives I did. I did eleven hundred and in less than an hour
[00:30:01] Dr. Nick: she’s You move that weight so fast, it’s like it’s like, Cool. It’s almost freaky. I mean, trying
[00:30:06] Tim Nash: to do that so that entire people out Yeah. Oh, yeah, Tell them they have to keep up with me. If they don’t keep up with me, then they’re there.
[00:30:13] Dr. Nick: And my trick is when I feel like they’re keeping up with me and I’m like, I don’t want this to last all day I say you gotta follow our pace of were the record holders, they have to match our pace. So I’ll do what I i’Ll call out doubles so both hands go up and down. So now they’re pushing their cardio with no resting between arms lifting left and right now it’s a unique ability, but you have to
[00:30:36] Tim Nash: be highly trained with him at all, So
[00:30:38] Dr. Nick: it sze usually where everyone drops out. It takes a huge cardiovascular fitness level to do it, but and it’s not genetic. I think it’s a trained ability. I mean, certainly you have to have genetics. But his training, right?
[00:30:51] Tim Nash: I think most of it was actually the mind to like, You know, first, if you can get through black, the gases build up and kind of regular basis and train your brain to ignore it, and you can start doing a lot better.
[00:31:02] Dr. Nick: You know, I recently heard a podcast with not Mark Spitz, but Phelps and Michael Phelps and he talked about. He trains two hours of morning in the water, two hours at lunch time, two hours in the evening and then does his weight training every day. And he says that he misses one day of training. He notices that he loses two days to catch up. I find the same thing I love to train. My mental set is to train every day, but because my travel schedule, whatever other excuses, I’m I think I miss a day or two. But my net average over twenty years is for two five intense, solid workouts a week.
[00:31:38] Tim Nash: I can honestly say I missed quite a bit, too, because you know I’m father. Three kids and
[00:31:43] Dr. Nick: I’m father of five.
[00:31:44] Tim Nash: I know I’m a grandpa, too, but you have to say your kids were spread out a lot. Ages ten to forty. Yeah, I got fourteen to fourteen year olds and a ten year old sow well, and they’re going in all different directions and none of them. Dr.
[00:31:57] Dr. Nick: I I’m in the same place. Well,
[00:31:59] Tim Nash: you have a room, and you’ve got one that doesn’t drive. I decided to start over. Yeah.
[00:32:08] Dr. Nick: And you know what? Sixty five and single. So you know what? I can’t say I won’t have another one along the way.
[00:32:15] Tim Nash: Could happen.
[00:32:16] Dr. Nick: So, Tim, what is it that creates that mental toughness? What drives you? What are you thinking about when you’re lifting non stop and you’re up against a formidable foe? I mean, you know, whoever you’re competing against, and these guys were usually half our age there on steroids, they’re massive. They’re strong
[00:32:32] Tim Nash: at the top players there that they’re the most fun because they think that they’re going to be able to be. Actually, the best time I ever had beating somebody was a guy that worked for me and just come back He was a vet, and I hired him. And he was, you know, young and solid. And he thought he worked out and he decided to tell somebody goes, You know, I think I can beat him and what he does. Wow. And he tells that to some other people on ice. So I called him out in a meeting one time I said, I understand that you think you can beat me. And he was
[00:33:01] Dr. Nick: I never
[00:33:01] Tim Nash: said that. I go and I go
[00:33:04] Dr. Nick: Really? Because they told me Buddie. Clear.
[00:33:06] Tim Nash: And there goes, But I think I can and I go. Really? Okay, well, here’s here’s what we’re gonna do. This was on a Friday and I said on Monday, I want you to bring in, you know, set of twenty fives. And and, uh, we’Ll just go out back and don’t know needs to be there. We’Ll just curl, impress and see who could go the longest. How about that?
[00:33:24] Dr. Nick: Because Okay. Okay. Oh, where you’re
[00:33:27] Tim Nash: on And he takes off out of there. And I turned us something. Other people I said, you know, it’s gonna be funny. Is he’s going to go home and see how much you can do right now. So Monday comes along yesterday. Did you bring in your twenty five? She goes, you know, I’m feeling a little sick today. I
[00:33:43] Dr. Nick: don’t know. It’s good. Oh, you already coming up with the beds? I go. Come on. Excuses already. He was all right. All right. You bring it
[00:33:50] Tim Nash: because I just have to tell you this. When I went home, I went home, and I was
[00:33:54] Dr. Nick: I would didn’t even sweat it. Fifty Oh, fifty left. One, two, three total. Boy, you don’t even know a ballpark you’re
[00:34:02] Tim Nash: playing. And yeah, I said my warm up is about a thousand and exciting What you do one hundred regularly. Fifteen hundred. Yeah. Yeah. So we went out back. He couldn’t even make one hundred in legal form. And so I grabbed him, threw up one hundred one and didn’t even break a sweat. Didn’t even start
[00:34:26] Dr. Nick: and really hard and beat him, right? Crushed like it was nothing. It’s interesting because I often say, Well, I’ve talked to him. I talk to you about this list. You know, if you go to light, it kind of opens up the field that you know you’re going to be doing a lot of lists. It’s going to make a little tougher. Why don’t you go heavier? Is leisure to beat him? But you pointed out that even twenty five repetitive lifts feel massively heavy. It totals up. And so these guys burn out fifty one hundred if they’re in good shape, two hundred lifts. I know. When I first went against ragging Radovic, I did two hundred eighteen. I was thinking, and then he had already beaten five guys. I’m thinking, I’ve gotta be sweating. He’s looking weak. I think I can take him. And then he turns to me and goes, I heard the announcer go and Dragon Ride of it holds the world record one thousand four hundred twenty five list. I do quick math and thinking, Oh my God, he’s just warming up. He’s got more to go because the other guys said there were
[00:35:14] Tim Nash: five. He did one thousand forty five lifts. That’s what that was. His was centered on Venice Beach.
[00:35:19] Dr. Nick: Okay, okay. So I’m not sure
[00:35:22] Tim Nash: why I did the eleven hundred. Got it. I got it.
[00:35:24] Dr. Nick: So So while I was lifting, you know, I was thinking through it. My shoulders were hurting, My body was hurting and I dropped the weights. I was exhausted. Is that you know, suit on. I just had my shirt, you know, long sleeve shirt. And I was just overheated. And I thought, Man, I love this sport. I think someday I want to keep competing to this guy. And so I remember when a guy from the Washington Redskins wearing a Super Bowl ring literally ah, defensive end came up. So whatever year the Washington Redskins won the Super Bowl, he showed up after Jim and he was bragging here. When I’m gonna beat that Nick Delgado and I look at this tower, a man must have been six a ripped abs arms bigger than my legs. And and I said, Okay, choose your way and he looks at me, says we’re not going to do in front of anyone, right? I said, Right. So let’s go in the back. So we were in the back and I said, Choose your weapon. You know, I don’t care if you use thirty, thirty five, forty, forty five. You go for it, and I’m gonna matching you Just have to keep pace he said Okay, so he grabbed the weights. I grabbed the ways we start lifting What? It was I believe he chose thirty five part way in. He started to shake a little bit. And I said, Are you ready to pick up the pace? Because what we’re lifting, you know, continuous. And then I’m certain No, you’ve got to keep up. And I started picking up the pacing. Dude, he’s breathing heavy, sweating terribly. And I crushed right, He drops away. So don’t tell anyone. Don’t tell you when this is ridic doc. I can’t let anyone know you beat me. Okay? Okay, Cool. So we walk out in the main room because this little guy just beat me. I can’t believe it. Like now. I have permission to tell the story. You know what? It’s not about the Alfa male thing of competing. It’s really a cooperation. Because as we all live together and train together, we inspire each other, right? And And your your diet has come to a whole new level. So I want to circle back to that words your diet out. What? What’s a typical breakfast, lunch and dinner. And do you eat more than three meals in a day. If you’re hungry or D chair, carry food with you know
[00:37:23] Tim Nash: why I don’t carry food as much as I do. I do. In my door, I I like to keep seeds and nuts, so I have
[00:37:29] Dr. Nick: your nibbling on something
[00:37:30] Tim Nash: I do. I do nibble on seeds and nuts like you had in the door of my car just to make sure I have something and not to mention is half the time when I go to a place where I go to a party, they won’t have something I can eat. So I always want to make sure I’ve got some some to back up, so I don’t feel like I need to cheat. But, you know, for the most part, ay dio salads. And I did find, Ah,
[00:37:52] Dr. Nick: he’s a fat free salad dressing or a dairy free dressing.
[00:37:55] Tim Nash: I Sometimes I just he’s brag. It’s Oh, yes, Caminos. Okay, put some of those on there. That’s good. No oil in it. Absolutely. Oil on the
[00:38:04] Dr. Nick: cracked. So what do you find in terms of your current weight? You’re six three and how much you weigh. Now
[00:38:10] Tim Nash: I’m at like two thirty.
[00:38:13] Dr. Nick: Wow. What is your way in high school and college? Wait.
[00:38:17] Tim Nash: Well, actually two thirties, where it came out of college. So But then
[00:38:23] Dr. Nick: Theo, there’s two. Thirty. Your college way. You and shape them too, right? We’re all duly speaking. Doesn’t get shape you into sports. What’s worse
[00:38:31] Tim Nash: on the triathlon team at USC,
[00:38:34] Dr. Nick: you ran triathlons? Holy mackerel.
[00:38:38] Tim Nash: I was water polo player in high
[00:38:40] Dr. Nick: school. I remember the water polo. I didn’t know you did Triathlon.
[00:38:42] Tim Nash: Eso didn’t do the water pull in college because I have bad eyesight, so that made it a little difficult. So I did the crew team for a brief stint, and then I was a graduate of USC. Yes. Yeah. And then I actually helped out the wide receivers coach and USC for one season. That was fun. I was more like a tackling dummy, you know? And then I was thinking about walking on the team, but they were talking about you know, how they would be hazing me. And I said, I just did the fraternity thing I’ve done with hazing, so Yeah, So I went on, actually. Then I started just working for the school. I was a lifeguard for the
[00:39:21] Dr. Nick: pool. You know, you have a unique background then in athletics, because that that takes a lot of mental toughness that takes strength and endurance particularly. And when we’re doing chrome presses, there’s it’s all strength
[00:39:33] Tim Nash: and endurance and mental toughness, and it really is Oh, yeah, you have to have the mental and, yeah, water polo. That one probably is
[00:39:42] Dr. Nick: Those guys all the credits to they looks right. It’s the
[00:39:44] Tim Nash: toughest sport I’ve ever played. Really? Oh, yeah, by far, because you have to figure you have to stay above
[00:39:50] Dr. Nick: water and your and throw the ball and your
[00:39:53] Tim Nash: touch, the bottom or the sides. But in fact, you probably have somebody hanging on you and pushing you down.
[00:39:59] Dr. Nick: They can do that legally. I don’t know what they don’t see it in the water. That right? Right, Right. So wow, So let me ask you this in. In summary, you’re typical breakfast, lunch and dinner. Do you have kind of a routine? You had a home
[00:40:15] Tim Nash: for nine hundred percent during you know the mornings. A lot of times I’ll get on my deals where i’Ll do I’ll do the beat Vitality shake with slim blend in it. Nice Delgado. And then I even put the protein and beat vitality. And I even put the stem cell strong. I’m so strong. So those repaired things that I put in in that sometimes I’ll mix that in and I’ll put some i’ll even add a little emergency sometimes to it. It’s a little flavor. Sure, sure. And it’s
[00:40:44] Dr. Nick: still more vitamins, right? Do you use power speed or leaning fit over the years? What products have you tried? Re empowered.
[00:40:51] Tim Nash: Speed is is probably my staple. I mean, they use that all the time, Really? Doing my lips and everything.
[00:40:57] Dr. Nick: Nice. You take it about like, minutes before you start lifting or half hour before.
[00:41:00] Tim Nash: Take it just before
[00:41:01] Dr. Nick: and you feel it throughout your workout, right?
[00:41:03] Tim Nash: Well, yeah. My workouts long enough that it kicks in.
[00:41:06] Dr. Nick: How long is a workout?
[00:41:07] Tim Nash: It’s a least a now, er well, you know, I actually take that back. I’ve been doing some it a half a knauer just with a heavier weight when I don’t think I have enough time to do my work. Right, Right.
[00:41:19] Dr. Nick: Just go heavier. But
[00:41:20] Tim Nash: otherwise I try and go at least a knauer I’ve been lately have been trying to do a couple times a month where I’m going it at the three hour mark
[00:41:29] Dr. Nick: and tell me about this million pound goal. What What? What is the latest
[00:41:33] Tim Nash: compound I did? The million pounds British shine that was That was over the course of a month month. He’s lifted
[00:41:38] Dr. Nick: over Carone Press overhead. A million total pounds. If you lifted thirty pounds twenty five. So every time he wishes So how many total lists was that? And what’s the math
[00:41:48] Tim Nash: on? No.
[00:41:48] Dr. Nick: Something crazy. It’s like we
[00:41:50] Tim Nash: can do the math and I don’t know, a couple thousand. It’s a couple thousand. It’s a lot. It’s
[00:41:56] Dr. Nick: no, it’s zero approaching ten
[00:41:58] Tim Nash: average of thirteen hundred a day. Yeah, so it was an average of thirteen hundred, I think thirteen hundred fifty reps a day with twenty five pound down. So
[00:42:10] Dr. Nick: somewhere over thirty forty thousand lives Times twenty five got him. Wow, that I don’t that’s unheard of. I know of no human’s ever
[00:42:18] Tim Nash: tell anyone I actually, when I told I told some that my step dad and he says, Well, how many people were on the team said no, That was me. That that’s that’s not possible. Like Oh, thank God. Didn’t did it before. I
[00:42:30] Dr. Nick: talk to you, right? And you bring up a huge point. Remember, people ask me how many lists you’re going to do to break the world record, and I don’t want to put a number on it. I mean, how many times you go into Jimmy, I’m going to twelve lifts with two hundred pounds or whatever, and your mind just goes, I’m done twelve lifts you. I always kept it open and I said, I’m going to lift a cz Muchas.
[00:42:52] Tim Nash: It takes one. That’s actually my cherry. Why did the thirty fives and I did that for you know, I I was allotting the hour because it was an hour time, but I actually said I can’t want to make eleven hundred. And in the hour, as soon as I hit eleven hundred, I went on cam time They go, but you’re only a fifty three minutes. Why, so it doesn’t matter. I brought the record,
[00:43:13] Dr. Nick: Tim Nationalist. Let’s circle back. So every section, as you had done leading up to about how many years have you been training intensely, clearly intensely. And yet your lips were high enough that it still clog your arteries. So about how many years two thousand five we went to. When do we go to London? Two thousand
[00:43:30] Tim Nash: settlers. And it’s was, too. That is seven. We went, yes. So two thousand five’s when I blew out my back and then remember I had to do and I was going to go into doing the rehab it anything else? I mean, that’s a different story, entirely. So the whole thing is that blew up my back. And and of course, the doctors say, Well, come on in. We’Ll give you painkillers and you’re getting too old to do this. So when you’re fired, you don’t even know me. And this is your your your offering of who? Do you guys hate chiropractors? I’m going to one of them. I went to that. I went to that kind of practice buddy of my narrow edge A and he, you know, adjust me and then told me just to start off bouncing on the ball and fifteen minutes and that’s it. And then do the hula hoop. We start working it up By the time we got to the end of his rehab. Then you said, Okay, now you get to do mine. And that’s the That’s when you got me doing the vertical lift. And you said that that’s going to rebuild the core structure because you’re, you know, alternating arms. You’ve gotta stabilize. So the stabilizers will get strong and did that for about a year. And then you gave me a call and said, Hey, how you doing on that rehab stuff? I thought that you And he said you were putting together the team to go out to London and asked me if I can hit forties to one hundred hundred lifts with forty. Helps us if you get it to one hundred. Come with me. I think we can win This thing said Okay, great. Sounds good. Yeah, let me try it. I tried it the first day. I got to seventy with forties. Yeah, without hurting myself. And I said, Yeah, I could train up. I’ll hit one hundred. Easy way had six weeks.
[00:45:05] Dr. Nick: Yeah, and Nicholas too. He had never really trained in this sport my son and he was working up to see and he said Dad I don’t think I couldn’t do enough lifts to be on the team. I said, You know what? Tim Nash and I will make up the difference. We’re going Toa London. I wanted him to have that experience,
[00:45:20] Tim Nash: which was that was That was awesome. I mean, I flew out there and meet you guys there, and I was like, I was in the air longer, and that was on the ground of online. But But that was it is still a great experience. If I wish I didn’t have to get back and talk to Toshiba. The one thing that was funny is I had never actually lifted on stage before either. So Nicholas and I hadn’t lifted on stage heat. Competed on stage? Yes, I was a telephone. Um, executive Right here. Like on
[00:45:48] Dr. Nick: we’re against elite athletes. Guys from Dubai who own fitness clubs, trained every day. Massive muscle guys,
[00:45:55] Tim Nash: all fitness champion from Dubai, was there.
[00:45:58] Dr. Nick: Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy that we even thought we could even take these guys on. So what was the outcome? How many lives did we end up with? I don’t remember. The council
[00:46:06] Tim Nash: account was was in the five hundreds like five hundred twenty with a
[00:46:11] Dr. Nick: forty five pound dumbbells.
[00:46:13] Tim Nash: Pound dumbbells. Yeah. So I ended up lifting, I think was to thirty. Thirty something you did to eighty? Yeah. It was something it was approaching through. You took second? Yeah. And gold in the world. The world I took fifth individually. And Nicolas exactly did not. Did not do bad. He did really good. He was in the forties or fifties, forties or fifties, which is huge. Forty five pound dumbbells in age
[00:46:38] Dr. Nick: fourteen. Yeah, and I know Dubai’s not last place. Dubai. There was a thing where one of the guys had a guy hold his weight for a while because he lost grip and you can’t let go of the weight
[00:46:50] Tim Nash: lose grip, but
[00:46:51] Dr. Nick: they didn’t disqualify
[00:46:52] Tim Nash: him well, and that’s the thing. So then we get that we got the team U S a U s a chant going U s A Yeah, that’s a Until they finally got back up there and they said, yes, they did disqualify or stop the counting back when he was okay. You know, when his partner went up on stage, his teammate went up on stage and graduate let him re grip. So we ended up winning by twelve lifts.
[00:47:16] Dr. Nick: Was a twelve. Yeah, I remember. Distinctly. At least the competition it was It was very tough, very brutal. And yet amongst the world, I mean, Ireland, Germany, U K to buy. And then there’s teamusa. Yeah, well, there was two different teams. The sons were together, right? Did Dragon compete that year?
[00:47:36] Tim Nash: No, he did not remember. That was one of the things that Yeah. Nick was saying Dragon is worried about going up against us. That Yeah, thanks. Oh, thanks. You know, we love right? And he started this whole thing through AG and started this whole thing. And dragon, actually, I mean, without it without drag, and none of this would be in the competition. He keeps on coming up with new formats and had a lift and everything else too. Yeah, he’s just a great guy. Yeah,
[00:48:04] Dr. Nick: fabulous. You know, final question, your lipids now have they been rechecked? Have you started using piece of us heart yet to help the lower the LDL cholesterol and kind of balance out the insulin levels
[00:48:17] Tim Nash: you need and you need to pick up someone here, but she wasn’t right. I was using it, and I did run out, so Okay, but yeah, I would remind you that. And that night also use the neuro insight. Oh, wow. No, Because actually, when you’re taking meds, it messes up your neurological aspects. And so I did take in the neuro inside to get backed some of the public.
[00:48:42] Dr. Nick: Did you ever use test Evita to enhance testosterone? And
[00:48:46] Tim Nash: I do testers Anderson scream and I still use thie A moray. I always want to call it more a V or five.
[00:48:54] Dr. Nick: Yeah, It’s an amazing product. No doubt about it prior to intimacy. And what about live detox and extra block? Have you dabbled with either those hors de esta
[00:49:02] Tim Nash: block I take all the time anymore? You do? Yeah. I’ve been taking extra block since. I mean, that has been coupled with power and speed little time.
[00:49:09] Dr. Nick: So, do you notice a difference with and without supplementation?
[00:49:12] Tim Nash: Well, I noticed that everybody else I talked to that’s had heart problems and some heart medication. They’re not actually being intimate, which I don’t have a problem with. Right? Right,
[00:49:24] Dr. Nick: Right, right. Wow. And it’s known that when the cardiovascular disease is compromised. Generally, the penal archers are compromised. First CD, The number one cause erectile dysfunction is clearly ah, hi buildup of atthe Socratic plaques. Cholesterol in the arteries. And I know there’s some people debates. It’s homocysteine. It’s oxidize cholesterol. It’s is thie. The different breakdown of the proteins is genetic. It’s it’s really even genetic people. Tennessee. There are some people of cholesterol was over six hundred and they needed even Maur. The point is, because you can still and I’ve worked with people genetically high cholesterols, their levels dropped down, not down the ideal levels. But they have to do. They just have to be strict. Ear’s all that have to be stricter. And I think that this myth that you know people can eat any diet they want and just just take your lip. Artur, take your stands. I think we have to change that. I think we have to look a tte, a new paradigm of what we call lifestyle medicine, and there’s really four critical steps that all end in summary. Tim, there’s detoxify Nutra fi fortify and then the power of the mind. You take those four steps with the supplementation two diet, the exercise, the quality to sleep, the right balance of the hormones, the chromosomes and everything. And then you take the power of the mind to a whole new level, and you can accomplish virtually anything you want accomplish in health, which will help your love life and most likely help you to perform consistently in your career. Would you agree with those statements? Sounds good to me, Dr Nick. Here. Be well, Be strong. I know you’ve got to get going. Tim Nash. It’s such a pleasure. I’ve been wanting you in studio for the longest. Well,
[00:51:10] Tim Nash: let’s let’s come back some other time and start doing a cooking
[00:51:12] Dr. Nick: show. Sounds great. Let’s get down to make it happen. For these, be well,
[00:51:20] Tim Nash: keep raising the bar.